Duel (DM6)
_ ParadokS
vs
ma-skari
10 minutes, Deathmatch 3
Fri 24 May 2002 on dm4.co.uk: 1on1/2on2
ping pl frags name Kills Deaths RA GA
42 1 33 ma-skari 34 10 22 3
52 1 6 _ ParadokS 8 38 5 16
28 0 spec tiddles 0 0 0 0
27 0 spec re:blitz 0 0 0 0
Award Score Winner(s)
Frag Streak 10 ma-skari
Spawn Fragger 3 _ ParadokS
Monday 19 May 2003, 17:45
#1:
Ken
Nice demo. Quite rare to see ParadokS lose a dm6 duel, therefore also rare to see him play a bit different towards the final minutes... Ya know, when you know chances of winning are almost zero so you play more fiercly and without backing up and stuff.

Anyways, having seen thousands of ParadokS' demos on this map, I still think he's the best at it.

Nonetheless, very good playing by koopa (Why the fakenicking then?), but I wish scripts like the ones he uses to RJ get prohibited one day..
Monday 19 May 2003, 18:01
#2:
myth
eh... thats one of his name :he uses koopa and that ;(!
Monday 19 May 2003, 20:45
#3:
phil
OH THANKS FOR RUINING THE DEMO KEN!!!

haha jk :) para has lost a number of times, albeit to very skilled oponents (not like def vs devious... or maybe devious has skill? *wink*)

koopa is definitely a party pooper in this demo though :)
Monday 19 May 2003, 21:21
#4:
phil
wow weird demo..

usually when para starts losing, he says something like "omg lol" and gets really mad and pulls off some really sick stuff, but here he just never gets a chance

textbook how-to demo on dm6 locking (and also how to sell your soul in order to get better spawns) HEHE
Monday 19 May 2003, 22:11
#5:
Ken
Phil: It's not like it was close or anything.. so I didn't spoil it for anyone! :P .. Para would beat that guy an average of 18.63 times out of 20, that's my estimate. :P
Monday 19 May 2003, 22:19
#6:
myth
ken, obviously you dont know koopa very well huh?
considering hes one of the best dm4 players, and just by beating paradoks on DM6. its pretty amazing in my opinion
Monday 19 May 2003, 22:44
#7:
phil
yes this is an amazing demo

i think para underestimated him, or was tired, or whatever. but ive seen para lose towards the middle of a game before, and he would just "snap out of it" and win anyway..

but here koopa just didnt give any edge, fantastical play by him
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 00:09
#8:
DonKing
Go Sam!
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 02:11
#9:
Ken
myth: Nope, I don't know koopa. Been watching QW demos for a couple of months only.. after years of NQ playing/watching. :)

Great demo, yeah.. but I like Para's playing so much, I even prefer his POV when he loses. :P

And you say koopa is good at dm4? Gonna have to download a few demos of him there.. The best dm4 demo I've seen is by Griffin, vs. (damn!..) Paradoks.. wow that was manslaughter.. still, Para rox dm6. Someone should make like, CMT maps for duels.. not enough original ID maps that are good for duels.. dm2 is too big, tourney demos end like 3-1 and stuff. :/
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 02:37
#10:
Anonymous
i saw a tourny endif demo with end score 3-1.
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 04:58
#11:
ApoKaLypZe
I?ve seen my fair share of para-demos through the years, and he still amazes me.
I have no doubt that he?s the best dm6-player of all time.
Sure, he has lost his homemap dm6 against a bunch of players, but there is noone around that haven?t lost his homemap at least once.
Most of his losses is friendly games also, which i?ve never considered real defeats.
That doesn?t change the fact that he?s a real killer on that map when playing it seriously (or even non-seriously).
Another thing that I like about para at dm6 is the way he plays; mad movement without scripts, killer shaft or aim in general, good tactics despite the fact that he plays it aggressive.
Sure, there are other dm6-players I consider very entertaining to watch, but there is only one para. =B-)

ApoK

Tuesday 20 May 2003, 07:06
#12:
Paradoks
koopa just owns me too hard this game, his lg rocked me.

dm4 i dont get anywhere near him.
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 09:00
#13:
moris
re post 12: lol. he spells his name ParadokS. notice the capital S you asshole @ 192.223.140.55
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 09:42
#14:
ParadokS
hehe, didnt even notice this demo was uploaded :)
must have been old, only played koopa once or twice in my life. Havent seen it myself, hope u enjoyed it =)
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 11:53
#15:
trop fort
Koopa est tout simplement trop fort pour la ligue. Imaginez si il jouait autant ? qw que para ! Je veux d'autres d?mos de koopa ?-)
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 12:53
#16:
phil
koo, pAH! koo, pAH! koo, pAH! koo, pAH! koo, pAH! koo, pAH!
Tuesday 20 May 2003, 16:42
#17:
myth
KEN if you want to see mad skills on dm4?
look at reppie

go d/l reppie vs razor dm4
Wednesday 21 May 2003, 02:10
#18:
oh
un francais :)
c clair qu'il d?chire bien et surtout sur dm4 en fait
Wednesday 21 May 2003, 02:41
#19:
Ken
myth: I've seen that one. :) reppie was good, yeah.

I think there are too many good dm4 players.. it's much more competitive than any other map. Take dm6 for example, Para ownz everyone.. yeah, he loses now and then, but he's the king in there.

But dm4.. nobody can be considered the best in there.. every comment I see from different people say the best player is a different person, heh.. Some say Griffin, others SoD, others Dag, others reload, others koopa... And yet I've seen demos of players like Griffin losing to other good dm4 players, like Xalibur and Striker. Then myth comes and says reppie has the mad dm4 skills.. I think it's just too hard to be the best in that map.
Wednesday 21 May 2003, 13:42
#20:
rev
There were 2 other dm6 games played at the same time. Para won them both. One very easily, and one was a bit closer.

However, Para chickened out of playing dm4, Sam was playing a lot of DM4 at that time :)
Wednesday 21 May 2003, 14:00
#21:
rev
BTW: if you like old demos like this between 'name' players, I think there are demos of koopa vs. dag on dm4 and dm6 and vs. def somewhere on the internet. Although I don't have them so don't look at me....

#15 I wouldn't really say that....overall Para is a stronger QW player although he does play far more QW than Sam does. I mean you have to be objective as Para did win the other two games although the person who posted the demo doesn't mention this. ;)

I think what people don't appreciate about Koopa is that he has a very different aiming technique from most other players - you can see this in the slightly 'awkward' or 'jerky' way he moves his mouse. Because of this, he has a killer LAN shaft - better even than he showed at QH Lan. But overall it might not be so well suited to QW because he sometimes fires some dodgy rockets...

Wednesday 21 May 2003, 19:22
#22:
ApoKaLypZe
I?m definitly no koopa-expert, but i?ve watched most of his demos from QHlan and even played him once, and I think you?ve got a good point there about his aiming, rev, even though I think his rl-aiming seems to be a bit underestimated.
About being the best at dm4, I think it?s down to who you play; preferred styles and so on.
Appearantly reppie takes down koopa quite easy on dm4, but for example it was the other way around when koopa played some other players on QHlan.
Since dm4 is by far the most popular duel-map, it?s very hard to crown a "dm4-king".
Besides wellknown players like griffin, dag, sod, xalibur, striker, _|anne, locktar (yes, he?s indeed underestimated on that map) and others, there are also many not so known players that plays a sharp game of qw on dm4, not to mention all fakenickers.
Who knows, maybe even LakermaN is hiding out there =B-)

ApoK
Thursday 22 May 2003, 02:49
#23:
Ken
rev: I'd like to see those other Para-koopa demos you mentioned. Where are they!? Try to remember!! :)
Thursday 22 May 2003, 07:22
#24:
crit
i had seen a demo of serok beat reppie before on dm4 and also koopa. noone can winner dm4 always!! good day and bad dayss
Monday 07 Jul 2003, 03:21
#25:
Anonymous
ApoKaLypZe, koopa was'nt playing his best at qhlan, so its hard to make a decent comparison with him :) It works both ways, reppie beat koopa a few times, koopa beat reppie a few times, simply dm4nisity
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