btw i meant the demo and not the useless newbie comment #1
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 14:36
#4:
qmole
Nice demo, but comparing it to inter isn't really fair. The IBC competition was only open for few weeks and that was some about 3 years ago. If you've been practising since then it's quite feasible that you could beat inter's score :) Also, inter didn't even win it. Some Brazilian cs player did.
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 15:21
#5:
oneshotflinch
I'm fairly sure Inter did win, the ibc website was up for ages and it listed him as having the top scre. Anyways, to elaborate on what you were saying qmole, not only was the tournament open for a limited timeframe, but since mouse speeds have increased up to 2000dpi. Aside from that there's no way to regulate cheating for such a challenge since it's 100% client side. There's any number of cheats that could be employed to give you an advantage that would greatly boost your scoring.
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 15:21
#6:
Anonymous
zip (the brazillian guy) made about +9k points in that.. much more then interceptor or other guys..
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 16:09
#7:
oneshotflinch
Yeah, but that was quite some time after the tournament ended and like I said there's no way to regulate people from cheating. If inter had continued playing up until the time zip had submitted his demo, it is probably that inter would of had a much better score to submit as well.
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 16:10
#8:
oneshotflinch
By playing, I mean practicing for a better score against the IBC bot that is ;>
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 16:12
#9:
qvr
Inter did win the competition. I've seen the Zip demo where he gets (178*55.7)=9914.6pts (might still be here on ch-tv), and I think react (from NZ) also beat Inter's score. I'm sure Inter could improve his old score and on this one... but who really cares...
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 16:35
#10:
phil
I have a anm*zip demo where he makes 10,000+
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 16:35
#11:
oneshotflinch
The point is, Inter won, no one could match his score when it mattered. Any subsequent demos that are being posted and being compared to Inter's score are totally irrelevant. Everyone knows Thresh or Lakerman would get owned by any number of players if they just showed up to the qw scene today if they were totally oblivious to how much people have evolved and improved at playing the game. However when they did play, they were highly regarded as being the best. The only thing that seperated them was how good they were from their peers at that particular point in time when they played. Although, because they were able to accel among their peers at that point of time it may also be reasonably assumed that if they ever did come back, it wouldn't take long for them to regain their relative status as becoming among the top players in the country again.
Showing you could've won a tournament, or you could of aced a test had you had more time, will never win you the tournament or ace you the test.
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 16:36
#12:
phil
yeah inter did win it.
I will run a similar tourney soon so we can see how everyone has gotten better on LG :)
Stay tuned to qw.nu/chtv/esr for updates :p
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 17:09
#13:
zip
hehehe, i didnt sent the demo into the tournament time cos in that time i got a seriously disease that affected all my moves, so i couldnt move well so it has impossible to get a good score.. but when i got well i did beat the inter score...
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 17:10
#14:
zip
and its not a big deal cos it has only a bot competition.. cya
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 18:14
#15:
dirtbox
react from new zealand smashed interceptors IBC record but was 1-2 days late submitting the result to the competition so they wouldn't accept it. there is a demo on this site somewhere, you should compare to that instead of interceptors.
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 18:16
#16:
The Rock
zip we all know you are the best and you easily beat euros. Brazilian players have always had the best lg aim even back in TGI days. Euros and especially the swedes know this but don't want to admit it unfortunately.
Tuesday 11 Apr 2006, 21:56
#17:
oneshotflinch
I say what the hell then, since there's going to be another shaft tournament anyways, phil would you mind uploading that demo of where zip gets 10,000+ score?
I'm looking for sick looking models, textures, huds etc. because a buddy of mine from school (he played Q1 back in the day) wants to try playing QW and one of the points of interest for him is the graphical and audio updates the fuhquake engine now supports.
I've got a setup right now using Def's HUD and Crosshair, Retexturing Project's 24 bit textures, MonkeyRats Remodeled progs(md1) models with 24bit textures, lit maps, a few custom texture paks and the MindGrid Audio Pak. Any suggestions is also welcome.
I've seen some QW movies where they use a shaft bolt model that looks a lot like q3 shaft. Does anyone know where I can find it? Thanks B)
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 01:07
#20:
x86
Certainly it's just for fun,I knew that somebody has better scores and i'm sure inter can improve his result easily, but i haven't seen demos and i didn't play in 2004 :)
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 02:06
#21:
Tjall
Not impeessed, just try, try, try, try, try, try, try and go back with 20k+ scores 8(
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 04:54
#22:
meta
omg nub demo ... all shaft
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 09:10
#23:
Anonymous
shaft > *
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 09:17
#24:
qmole
Okay, when I said inter didn't win, I was referring to the Brazilian demo (not zip, I forget his name) that got disqualified. For my money it wasn't a cheat (he posted demos of how he did it later), but never mind :)
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 09:22
#25:
qmole
man that zip demo is unbelievable :)
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 10:11
#26:
Hagge
stop watching povdmm4 demons and get a life :[[[
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 11:20
#27:
pg
Is damage given not directly tied to damage frags? I can give as much or more damage as some of these demos but my LG %, and damage frags are way lower. Doesn't seem to make any sense...
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 12:10
#28:
Anonymous
where can i download a solid version of qw
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 12:35
#29:
oneshotflinch
#28
You can snag it from here: http://www.anti-exe.com/quake/download.html
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 12:38
#30:
Anonymous
anm zip is the best.
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 12:40
#31:
oneshotflinch
There's also Def's Quakeworld setup: http://quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=123
"Is damage given not directly tied to damage frags? I can give as much or more damage as some of these demos but my LG %, and damage frags are way lower. Doesn't seem to make any sense..."
the score in ibc is related to lg% as well, lower lg with constant damage frags = lower score
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 15:54
#34:
pg
Just for example I have a povdmm4 where I do like 7400ish, and have like 145 damage frags. Zip's demo is like 7600ish, and he has like 178 damage frags. Does LG % effect damage frags?
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 16:22
#35:
phil
if you had 7400 and 145 damage frags then you would have 7400/145=51% lg; if you had 7600 and 178 damage frags, that is 42.7% lg. a damage frag is (afaik) equal to 100hp total from your opponent, lg% does not factor into that, but it does factor into the IBC score
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 17:06
#36:
qvr
I think pg was asking about "damage" given/taken - the total damage that is done and not the ibc score. When your shafting a newly spawned bot (or person), the damage you do to them while they have the 2seconds or so of protection is not counted, only the damage you do after this period is over is added to your "damage given" total. Damage frags however take all the damage that is done into account. LG% has no effect.
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 17:45
#37:
qmole
wow, interesting explanation qvr :) I was trying to figure out a reason for it, but that makes perfect sense, thanks.
Wednesday 12 Apr 2006, 19:11
#38:
lithium
im fairly certain i can beat that score. ill try it when i get home.
Thursday 13 Apr 2006, 14:19
#39:
x86
zip's score has amazed me, 178 frags is something...
Friday 14 Apr 2006, 20:25
#40:
phil
http://quakeworld.us/phil/lgc/
whee
Monday 17 Apr 2006, 12:33
#41:
vladde
Corpse Grind is playing with 64ms and get lg eff over 50 thats impressive.