if you want to learn dm4 total control, just check griffin vs hin out..

lol

I got dominated by Hagge in bed the other day but he didnt post any demos Be

hahaha

first demo 9:20 hib gets hurt by a backpack?

No, it's Para's dead body that blocks that rocket, watch it in slow motion.

oh, i have dead body filter = 2

"Second map: I get totally dominated - if you wanna learn DM4 control on highest level, this is the match you wanna study."

lol, no wonder that game is a rape. Perhaps because of ParadokS' extremely stupid playing style, using no tactics whatsoever, just spawn and jump straight into hib's pineapples.

If you wanna see a real dm4-lesson, watch some of the recent griffin demos here instead..

Kinda nice games!

It seems like hib plays with big sens and still has an outstanding lg %, wonna see his qwz demo on dm4.

"It seems like hib plays with big sens and still has an outstanding lg %" he has low sens+rollangle w/ shaft :[

i have same sens rl/shaft , just rollangle that changes.

Rollangel changes? From/to what and why?

Second map: I get totally dominated - if you wanna
learn DM4 control on highest level, this is the
match you wanna study.

^^^ diva alert [------------O-]

hib has a style i can learn from and imitate to some extent, whereas grffn has a playing style i find difficult to imitate. not sure why this is so. though i'd love to be able to manage dm4 like grffn, I think i am in good company if i learn to run dm4 like hib. i do think hib is one of the top all-round qw players of all time; he has been playing at the top level through many qw eras. you could justly say much the same about para, though i don't think he was as active back at the time of heroes and villians..? educational qw viewing, often about what to avoid as about what to try to do:)
respectfully, xhrl