Duel (DM2)
sting
vs
Ven
Rating: 4.6 (18 votes)
10 minutes, Deathmatch 3
Tue 21 March 2006 on iPGN KTeamPro Duel #2
ping pl frags name Kills Deaths RA YA
14 0 16 Ven 17 18 18 6
27 1 13 sting 16 23 16 13
13 0 spec choc 0 0 0 0
13 0 spec dirtbox•cam 0 0 0 0
13 0 spec roshcambo - sting 0 0 0 0
39 2 spec 308 0 0 0 0
90 0 spec vbqldstingcam 0 0 0 0
Award Score Winner(s)
Frag Streak 4 sting, Ven
Spawn Fragger 2 sting, Ven
Tuesday 21 Mar 2006, 06:53
#1:
Anonymous
Bracket @ www.besmella.com/duel/index2.php?sid=5&mod=matches&act=view_text
Tuesday 21 Mar 2006, 07:33
#2:
Anonymous
Nice games. So Sting and Venom are best from Aus then?

Why dont we send these guys to Europe for a QW WorldCup. Only problem is would be tough picking 2 players to represent Sweden and England.
Tuesday 21 Mar 2006, 08:55
#3:
phil
where is mort :(
Tuesday 21 Mar 2006, 21:14
#4:
dirtbox
they are definitely the best 2 so far in BesMella.Duel...

phil - mortuary is still in the competition and has to play miyagi in the losers bracket
Tuesday 21 Mar 2006, 23:31
#5:
inertia
so whoever won this plays reload for the final final?
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 06:03
#6:
oneshotflinch
All I can say is Sting never ceases to impress me. The kid just keeps getting better and better. It's about time people start taking his skills more seriously :)
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 06:49
#7:
phil
ja

mort needs to win this or I will be sad in pants <3
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 07:49
#8:
Anonymous
well it proves sting aint a one map wonder
i do think he got a bit lucky on dm6 about mid-way though when they spawned together and got the RA spawn and controlled it from that point on.
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 08:21
#9:
oneshotflinch
I'd like to see Mort play some solid tourny games but the fucking guy doesn't have the competitive edge you need to win serious games. He says he's all about "self expressive freedom and art." While I can respect that style of play in practice and fun games, if the guy is going to sign up for tournies where the prime objective is to win, I see it more of an excuse for losing. Anytime you're looking for a "backdoor" by holding some sort of an excuse for losing, you're not committing to playing your personal best and probably bound to wind up the loser.

That's my little rant and I say this because I think the guy is so fucking talented but he's holding onto useless ideas that's retarding his game. I think it's great he tries to express himself creatively and artistically but when it comes down to crunch time, it's time to show how those skills can be most effective.

I'm reminded of the American player blahblah who typically loses to just about anyone probably because in his normal style of play he likes to continuously rush his opponents. This made everyone think he was the underdog in the div1 NA-1v1-tournament and many thought he should be in div2 or 3. Although many of the top div1 players forfeited he still managed to surprise everyone by winning the tourny. My point is there's a time for having fun and being creative and shit, and there's a time to show what all that amounts to.

I'm a Mort fan but he's really got to step-up his game if anyone is going to take him seriously.
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 19:00
#10:
Anonymous
err "take him seriously?""" WTF? I know this might be a little hard to digest to some people but QW is a friggin video game you idiot and Im sure Mort plays purely for fun. FFS, what do you want him to do? Give up his day job so he can concentrate on winning meaningless online competitions? When was the last time anyone is AU even competed in a menaningful tournament with actual prize money involved? I can't speak for Mort but I doubt the guy plays the game so he can "one day" be taken seriously in the Deteriorating quake community. Unless we he decides to move to Eurpore there is no point in taking this game too seriously.
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 19:29
#11:
Clapper
#8
Equally lucky that Ven got the RA at the beginning :P
Wednesday 22 Mar 2006, 21:51
#12:
oneshotflinch
#10 - I'm talking about him competing in tournaments he signed up for you stupid fucking inbred. Grow some balls and put your qw tag on.

Also, I never said he shouldn't continue carrying on like he is, I just made a point that people are likely not too take his game too seriously. I know I wouldn't bank any money on him winning.

If you're going to be a pussy just keep it shut especially because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 07:35
#13:
Hagge
you just gotta love these bitchy ch-tv flamewars :) always puts a smile on your face <3 Be
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 15:26
#14:
phil
Be
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 15:27
#15:
phil
P.S. if you "cant speak for Mort", and your own name is anonymous... then who are you speaking for?

gg
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 19:46
#16:
Anonymous
#15 I said I cant speak for Mort which is why I said "I DOUBT the guy takes the game too seriously". . . its a fucking opinion you knob-head. . . that's why I said it. Fuck people on this site are bloody retarded. . . it's obvious if you guys spent less time playing quake and more time getting an education you might understand . . .
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 22:19
#17:
Anonymous
#12. Oneshotflinch - I know Mortuary in person, and your misunderstanding of what he said is RETARDED. Playing for fun doesnt mean not playing your personal best, it means not attributing and focusing on the ego fullfillment of 'winning' or 'loosing'. Infact you actually play better when there is no fixation on a "ME ME I HAVE TO WIN" because there are less thoughts distracting you from playing and having fun. Winning or loosing means nothing when you dont attach meaning to it, and you can just enjoy the fun of playing/fragging without fixating on the outcome.
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 22:20
#18:
oneshotflinch
There's as many opinions on this planet as there is people, so if all you're doing is expressing a poor excuse for an opinion then why are you calling us idiots, knob-heads, retarded and poorly educated you dumb fucking twit.

I have a diploma in Computer Science and have always been an honors student, so shove that up your filthy-skank ass.
Thursday 23 Mar 2006, 22:27
#19:
oneshotflinch
#17 - I'm not talking about playing for fun I'm talking about playing competitively. I'm reacting to something he typed directed to me in thread 30491, post #118:

"thanks for the kind words oneshotflinch, but i for one am not a competetive player, scores don't mean anything to me - i'm all about self expressive freedom and art. that's what i play for - i see it as art... i've lost to anyone and everyone"

You can still play for fun and be competitive. A truly competitive player will usually *only* have fun if the game is competitive.
Friday 24 Mar 2006, 13:15
#20:
Ken
I'm sure we'll respect you more from now on, because of your diploma, sir. *laughs*
Saturday 25 Mar 2006, 01:46
#21:
oneshotflinch
Ken, as usual you totally lost the point.
Saturday 25 Mar 2006, 09:32
#22:
Ken
Re-read your post #18, and then try to make a point again. You reached an all time low in there, with 90% of the words being insults... not too good for an honours student. :|

And if you wanna talk aboit losing the point..

[Quoting your post #9]: "That's my little rant and I say this because I think the guy is so fucking talented but he's holding onto useless ideas that's retarding his game."

Just like you said in your post #18 that there are as many different opinions as there are people in this planet, there are also many different "ideas", for your information. And by calling his ideas USELESS, you're kinda disrespecting him. If you can't understand why someone plays QW, wether it's for fun, wether it's to win tourneys, or wether it's for expressing himself because he enjoys doing so, then you have no rights to come here and say he's attached to "USELESS IDEAS". You stick to the ideas you want, BE YOURSELF, and please, LET OTHERS BE. :-)

Of course, you could also add a new rule to every tournament there is: Rule: If you don't play TO WIN, then you're not allowed to enter the tourney! Hah hah ... give me a break.
Saturday 25 Mar 2006, 13:47
#23:
oneshotflinch
Ken, WAKE THE FUCK UP, and start paying attention, you've obviously got some sort of ADD or you're just angst about something I wrote and you're not man enough to come out and say it.

202.2.57.xxx called me an idiot, he called phil a knob-head and referred to people who frequent the cha-tv web site as being retarded and poorly educated which is why I was harsh and continued to be harsh with this guy.

I've already addressed every point you're making against me and as usual you're totally missing the BOAT on EVERYTHING.

You wrote:
"Of course, you could also add a new rule to every tournament there is: Rule: If you don't play TO WIN, then you're not allowed to enter the tourney! Hah hah ... give me a break. "

I wrote:
"Also, I never said he shouldn't continue carrying on like he is, I just made a point that people are likely not too take his game too seriously. I know I wouldn't bank any money on him winning."

As for my diploma I wasn't boasting my credentials, I was making a point that the people who visit this site are not lacking education. Again you totally missed the point pal, and since you find my diploma so amusing, I'd like to know what kind of credentials you're boasting.
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 02:52
#24:
Ken
I'm an engineer bro, and I became one at 21, yet I don't ask anyone to respect my QW-related opinions because of it.

I have nothing against you.... maybe, maybe I dislike the fact that on EVERY demo I click on in this site, you seem to have "THE" right opinion on everything. About pings, about skills, about why a player should play or should not play, etc, etc, etc.

Don't stop commenting.
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 06:37
#25:
dirtbox
i dont think he has THE opinion, he has AN opinion.... just like everyone else!
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 16:58
#26:
oneshotflinch
Right. I also don't want anyone to stop playing. Dare I say, I'd even like to see Adrenalin to continue playing, he just really needs to grow up for his own good.

Ken, hey thanks for being honest. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just genuinely interested in what's going on.
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 17:40
#27:
Anonymous
oneshotflinch can I ask which country are you from? I take it your not an aussie.
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 18:35
#28:
oneshotflinch
I've lived in both Canada and the US, and I also have a lot of family in Europe.
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 18:46
#29:
oneshotflinch
Which is not to say I'm not akin to the Aussies. I've had some pretty cool friends from Australia, and my parents love it there. Right now they are travelling through New Zealand on a 6 month vacation.
Sunday 26 Mar 2006, 22:44
#30:
Ken
Glad to see you're a reasonable guy :)
Now go comment on reppie/Avenger demos!! :P
Monday 27 Mar 2006, 19:13
#31:
Clapper
what a very un-chtv moment - FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME
Monday 27 Mar 2006, 21:37
#32:
Ken
It's just that I saw Chuck Norris (meanest MOFO on earth!) wrote a Christian-oriented book recently, so I decided to be a peaceful man. Cheers.



:P
Thursday 30 Mar 2006, 06:06
#33:
StinG
surely there's a forum for this kind of chatter :)
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